Dootalk forums&prev=search&pto=aue - New to the DooTalk forum but looks like lots of info here from knowlegable folks. Anyhow, I have 2002 MXZ 700, runs awsome after getting it started, but heres the problem, GETTING IT STARTED. Off the trailer and cold I sit there and pull and pull the thing and no go, choke on, half and off.

 
Jul 16, 2021 · MXZ / Legend / Summit / Grand Touring / Formula. I recently saw ad ad in a local face book marketplace of a "Ski Doo 660 for sale", pictures showed an S-Chassis Summit, so I asked for pictures. Young kid, had it and "another Ski Doo" for sale, $1,500.00 Canadian for both. He sent pictures and one sled obviously looked like a '96 MXZ and the... . Helper wp

Nov 5, 2010 · Hi, always best to get a hold of me at [email protected] as it takes me too long to get to messages here on the sledding forums. [email protected] Hi joe. i'm newer to the dootalk forum and i'm having some issues with my 03 mxz 700 adrenaline zx. first off, when at idle my belt is squelling against my primary. Which secondary clutch do you have? Feb 2, 2013 · A forum community dedicated to Ski-doo snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about trails, racing, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.Empire087 · #2 · Mar 28, 2010. SnoMo said: We had two XP's start brake fires this January. Ski-Doo and my dealer claim the ebrakes were on - they were not. Ski-Doo will do nothing about it, they send only lawyer like letters stating they are not and never will be responsible. I have seen several other posts claiming the same issue.Jan 16, 2012 · New to the DooTalk forum but looks like lots of info here from knowlegable folks. Anyhow, I have 2002 MXZ 700, runs awsome after getting it started, but heres the problem, GETTING IT STARTED. Off the trailer and cold I sit there and pull and pull the thing and no go, choke on, half and off. The rest is conjecture. Any motor can have issues be it Naturally Aspirated or Forced Induction, over a 20 year life span. 2019 Renegade Adrenaline 900 ACE Turbo, 1.25" Ripsaw, Studboy 6" Deuce Bars, 6" RSI riser. 1998 MXZ670, 20/44 gearing, Goodwin clutching, Tracks USA 136" extension, 1.5" Intense track, 3" ROX riser.Bubz · #7 · Nov 14, 2009. Unfortunately Ski-Doo does call for 8.5 ounces. IMO the tools should have put the level plug at that spot rather than at 12 ounces, to avoid all the confusion. No damage will be done if you want to fill it all the way to the level plug. Reply.2015 supercharged m8000 air intake temperature sensor. XFire 136"-141"/Mtn. Cat/M-series. So, I have a 2015 m8000 with the speedwerx super charger on it. The sled fires right up, and runs great at WOT, the issue is that it has the classic m8000 stumble/hesitation to get up to WOT. May 11, 2023 · G4 Platform. This is a brand-specific forum. Posts on this forum are assumed to be questions aimed at similar model owners, and are not looking for comments of a sarcastic or "bashing" nature. Please be aware that if you violate this policy you are in danger of losing your posting privileges on this website.The calling out or posting of another ... May 5, 2022 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.Aug 31, 2023 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. Forums. Ski-Doo Snowmobiles. Sledding - General Discussion. Questions. 3274 Views 29 Replies 20 Participants Last post by Pit Grunt, Oct 1, 2016 Jump to Latest 6 ...Apr 10, 2022 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. Next. 800revxp · #2 · Mar 21, 2011. Every inch you add to the track, takes away handling, adds weight, increases rolling resistance/ rotating mass. You'll get every opinion you can imagine and some you never envisioned on track length. I ride powder in Alaska and prefer a short track.Feb 15, 2022 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. Want to Buy 2012 600HOETEC GSX SE (23 tooth and 45 tooth gear) RacerZ. Mar 14, 2023. Bangor, Michigan. $50 USD. 3.Oct 31, 2021 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. A forum community dedicated to Ski-doo snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about trails, racing, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more!Sep 5, 2020 · A forum community dedicated to Ski-doo snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about trails, racing, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! 4-TEC / Ace 4 Strokes. This is a brand-specific forum. Posts on this forum are assumed to be questions aimed at similar model owners, and are not looking for comments of a sarcastic or "bashing" nature.Aug 30, 2023 · This forum category is to communicate with fellow mates on various models of Ski-Doo like Renegade, MXZ 850X, TNT 900, Summit, and much more. Ask ques ... tions and get them answered by the enthusiasts. more A forum community dedicated to snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, racing, troubleshooting, trails, maintenance, riding tips, modifications, classifieds, gear, and more! Aug 26, 2017 · Ski doo 2006 Summit X 800 rev electrical components not working after sitting outside for about 5 years. opreco06. Feb 12, 2023. 15. 677. Feb 13, 2023. Apr 25, 2022 · MX-Z Man · #19 · Feb 27, 2023. DooXtreme said: I saw 105ish on the speedometer on 1200cc renegade 137 which dyno at 136 hp I believe. I haven't been able to get it over 100 on the speedo this year. Looked around 98 on the speedometer and when I opened my GPS app the app had my top speed of 89 mph. Little Italy Tupper Lake, Tupper Lake, New York. 2,313 likes · 73 talking about this · 3,783 were here. Restaurant, pizzeria & bar serving Pizza, wings,... The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.A.) Don't look for the 3D RAVE system on the 1000 SDI anytime soon - the current stepper motor system on the 1000 works awesome. We don't need a thermostat on this motor, or the new 800R PowerTEK, because of state-of-the-art design. Our engines' sophisticated electronics better control warm-up and sense problems.A forum community dedicated to snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, trails, riding tips, modifications... in the entire siteWant to Buy 2012 600HOETEC GSX SE (23 tooth and 45 tooth gear) RacerZ. Mar 14, 2023. Bangor, Michigan. $50 USD. 3.Jan 16, 2012 · New to the DooTalk forum but looks like lots of info here from knowlegable folks. Anyhow, I have 2002 MXZ 700, runs awsome after getting it started, but heres the problem, GETTING IT STARTED. Off the trailer and cold I sit there and pull and pull the thing and no go, choke on, half and off. 4-TEC / Ace 4 Strokes. This is a brand-specific forum. Posts on this forum are assumed to be questions aimed at similar model owners, and are not looking for comments of a sarcastic or "bashing" nature.Both are impressive. I am coming of a pair of 2016 900 aces and the additional power and, new chassis and suspension are awesome. There is a noticeable difference in power between the 2. Put on about 110 miles so far and switching back and forth quite a bit. So far not noticing the weight difference.ski-doo-spindles.gif. Thats what I was saying, Shorter from lower ball joint to ski bolt= less ski pressure. You will also see the ski is pusher back 2 inches.need to look at tie rod location and the turn stops. SLP says they haven't really ever tried them .with a deep keel ski it will surely offset the ski pressure.Jan 6, 2013 · A forum community dedicated to Ski-doo snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about trails, racing, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Elan Dude · #16 · Jan 17, 2013. You will need to remove the recoil assembly ( 4 metric screws)clean it and re-grease it lightly. I t may only need a good cleaning if you could help your rope back. 71 Oly 335E & SkiBoose MK I, 74 Elan 250, 76 Oly 300T, 77 Everest 340, 79 Blizzard 5500. Reply.Jan 18, 2017 · Added 8hp and removed 21 lbs 22 MXZ XRS 600R. ADTguy. Sep 1, 2023. REV-GEN 4 & 5 Trail two stroke. 18. 899. 27 m ago. by mile9c1. M. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.Mar 28, 2010 · Empire087 · #2 · Mar 28, 2010. SnoMo said: We had two XP's start brake fires this January. Ski-Doo and my dealer claim the ebrakes were on - they were not. Ski-Doo will do nothing about it, they send only lawyer like letters stating they are not and never will be responsible. I have seen several other posts claiming the same issue. Here's a photo of the used vs new, quite a difference. Unfortunately, the photo lost a good deal of resolution when it was shrunk to post, note the shape of the electrode in the left photo (used) vs Right (new).The posted photo doesn't quite do it justice as the worn plug was probably 25% less than the new.352. Next. Mach Z / Mach 1 / Formula III Triples. Discussion about the Mach/Formula III Triples. 125.8K posts. 16.7M. Ski-Doo Snowmobiles.Clarity on Clutching -- Launch control. ateick. Aug 21, 2023. 12. 452. Aug 22, 2023. by krm. Heat Exchanger to Engine position on a Gen 4 vs XS? Looking for insight please.The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.Jan 16, 2012 · New to the DooTalk forum but looks like lots of info here from knowlegable folks. Anyhow, I have 2002 MXZ 700, runs awsome after getting it started, but heres the problem, GETTING IT STARTED. Off the trailer and cold I sit there and pull and pull the thing and no go, choke on, half and off. Nov 22, 2015 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.Lodging near Lakes of the north (mancelona MI) FormTA. Feb 13, 2023. 5. 957. May 23, 2023. by UP Rider.Aug 9, 2023 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. 4-TEC Turbo Classifieds. TURBO PARTS ONLY...All Other Ads Will Be Deleted Without Warning. 2.9K. 565K. Aug 16, 2023.MT Stringer · #18 · Mar 24, 2022. Judge64 said: Yamaha didn't kill their snowmobile lineup on their own. You can blame the decline of the sport overall since the '70's as a contributing factor. Dozens of manufacturers have closed up shop or killed their snowmobile product lineup since the '70's.Next. 800revxp · #2 · Mar 21, 2011. Every inch you add to the track, takes away handling, adds weight, increases rolling resistance/ rotating mass. You'll get every opinion you can imagine and some you never envisioned on track length. I ride powder in Alaska and prefer a short track.Feb 11, 2006 · For Sale Skidoo Mach Z 900R turbo Hurricane Extreme Intercooler 900 ACE Turbo. airwolf. Apr 11, 2023. Ava, New York. $900 USD. 4. New to the DooTalk forum but looks like lots of info here from knowlegable folks. Anyhow, I have 2002 MXZ 700, runs awsome after getting it started, but heres the problem, GETTING IT STARTED. Off the trailer and cold I sit there and pull and pull the thing and no go, choke on, half and off.The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.Lodging near Lakes of the north (mancelona MI) FormTA. Feb 13, 2023. 5. 957. May 23, 2023. by UP Rider.The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.Mar 28, 2010 · Empire087 · #2 · Mar 28, 2010. SnoMo said: We had two XP's start brake fires this January. Ski-Doo and my dealer claim the ebrakes were on - they were not. Ski-Doo will do nothing about it, they send only lawyer like letters stating they are not and never will be responsible. I have seen several other posts claiming the same issue. Primary sliding sheave bushing tool. LVP. Sep 1, 2023. 1. 105. 13 h ago. by SkidooShredder. Shock swap. But the bolt sizes look to be different.Feb 15, 2022 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. MT Stringer · #18 · Mar 24, 2022. Judge64 said: Yamaha didn't kill their snowmobile lineup on their own. You can blame the decline of the sport overall since the '70's as a contributing factor. Dozens of manufacturers have closed up shop or killed their snowmobile product lineup since the '70's.Jan 16, 2012 · New to the DooTalk forum but looks like lots of info here from knowlegable folks. Anyhow, I have 2002 MXZ 700, runs awsome after getting it started, but heres the problem, GETTING IT STARTED. Off the trailer and cold I sit there and pull and pull the thing and no go, choke on, half and off. Feb 15, 2022 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. Feb 15, 2023 · 352. Next. Mach Z / Mach 1 / Formula III Triples. Discussion about the Mach/Formula III Triples. 125.8K posts. 16.7M. Ski-Doo Snowmobiles. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.A forum community dedicated to Ski-doo snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about trails, racing, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more!J. Jereme6655 · #8 · Dec 1, 2016. I had a 16oz bottle of chain case oil.....after following the owners manual instructions to fill it to the bottom of the check plug, there were 4 oz left in the bottle. So per the change instructions it's 12oz. Reply.Nov 6, 2019 · Sparky709 · #18 · Jan 23, 2022. 800_XRS said: Ski Doo Shop Manuals Bulletins Campaigns | Skidoo. My website should have what your looking for if not pm me and I'll get it to you. Woodsy. Looking for a service manual for 2003 grand touring 600r. Reply. Jul 21, 2017 · A.) Don't look for the 3D RAVE system on the 1000 SDI anytime soon - the current stepper motor system on the 1000 works awesome. We don't need a thermostat on this motor, or the new 800R PowerTEK, because of state-of-the-art design. Our engines' sophisticated electronics better control warm-up and sense problems. Little Italy Tupper Lake, Tupper Lake, New York. 2,313 likes · 73 talking about this · 3,783 were here. Restaurant, pizzeria & bar serving Pizza, wings,...Feb 2, 2013 · A forum community dedicated to Ski-doo snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about trails, racing, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Apr 25, 2022 · MX-Z Man · #19 · Feb 27, 2023. DooXtreme said: I saw 105ish on the speedometer on 1200cc renegade 137 which dyno at 136 hp I believe. I haven't been able to get it over 100 on the speedo this year. Looked around 98 on the speedometer and when I opened my GPS app the app had my top speed of 89 mph. Sep 28, 2016 · Forums. Ski-Doo Snowmobiles. Sledding - General Discussion. Questions. 3274 Views 29 Replies 20 Participants Last post by Pit Grunt, Oct 1, 2016 Jump to Latest 6 ... Got my 11 renegade BCX 800etec rebuilt last spring under the factory rebuild (crankshaft went at 1400 miles) I went riding near abbotsford wisconsin, got through the break-in and then the overheating started. The light came on probably 10 times during my 550 mile trip and everytime i stopped as...Forums. Ski-Doo Snowmobiles. Sledding - General Discussion. Questions. 3274 Views 29 Replies 20 Participants Last post by Pit Grunt, Oct 1, 2016 Jump to Latest 6 ...A forum community dedicated to snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, trails, riding tips, modifications... in the entire siteNov 6, 2011 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. J. Jereme6655 · #8 · Dec 1, 2016. I had a 16oz bottle of chain case oil.....after following the owners manual instructions to fill it to the bottom of the check plug, there were 4 oz left in the bottle. So per the change instructions it's 12oz. Reply.Oct 31, 2021 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. Mar 16, 2023 · Clarity on Clutching -- Launch control. ateick. Aug 21, 2023. 12. 452. Aug 22, 2023. by krm. Heat Exchanger to Engine position on a Gen 4 vs XS? Looking for insight please. AKDoug · #16 · Jan 19, 2021 (Edited by Moderator) The extended glove box with heated cell phone holder for the Gen 4's works great. I've been using mine constantly with the OnX Hunt app to redirect old backcountry trails around private property to avoid future conflicts, as well as map out old trails accurately.MX-Z Man · #19 · Feb 27, 2023. DooXtreme said: I saw 105ish on the speedometer on 1200cc renegade 137 which dyno at 136 hp I believe. I haven't been able to get it over 100 on the speedo this year. Looked around 98 on the speedometer and when I opened my GPS app the app had my top speed of 89 mph.A forum community dedicated to Ski-doo snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about trails, racing, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more!The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.Aug 15, 2023 · The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. Scam Alert 2040.com. Scam Alert for website 2040-parts and 2040-cars, not sure why more people have not heard about this scam web site. the scammers steal old listings from ebay and other sites and relist them on the 2040 site. they hope you will send them money orders, apple pay and other not traceable payments for stuff you will never get ...MT Stringer · #18 · Mar 24, 2022. Judge64 said: Yamaha didn't kill their snowmobile lineup on their own. You can blame the decline of the sport overall since the '70's as a contributing factor. Dozens of manufacturers have closed up shop or killed their snowmobile product lineup since the '70's.Mach Z 1000 SDI spark plug information. There are 3 new NGK Iridium ECS version spark plugs available for snowmobiles. These are the same as the other ECS spark plugs which have chamfered faces where the ground electrode is attached by welding. This chamfer was added to strengthen the weld and eliminate electrode burn off.Forums. Off Topic Lounge. General Discussion. Very Sad News - Bobadoo. 26217 Views ...

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Jul 16, 2021 · MXZ / Legend / Summit / Grand Touring / Formula. I recently saw ad ad in a local face book marketplace of a "Ski Doo 660 for sale", pictures showed an S-Chassis Summit, so I asked for pictures. Young kid, had it and "another Ski Doo" for sale, $1,500.00 Canadian for both. He sent pictures and one sled obviously looked like a '96 MXZ and the... Tread XL - Overland Edition. Suction Cup Mount (10") - Ball size 1.5”. 12 Volt Vehicle Power Cable - Cigarette-Lighter style plug-in. Locking Magnet-assisted Mount - Ball size 1.5”. USB Cable Type A to Type C. Comes with a Garmin short 1.5' arm mount - All I needed was the ram mount plate. Documentation (Owners manual is installed on the ...Feb 15, 2020 · The rest is conjecture. Any motor can have issues be it Naturally Aspirated or Forced Induction, over a 20 year life span. 2019 Renegade Adrenaline 900 ACE Turbo, 1.25" Ripsaw, Studboy 6" Deuce Bars, 6" RSI riser. 1998 MXZ670, 20/44 gearing, Goodwin clutching, Tracks USA 136" extension, 1.5" Intense track, 3" ROX riser. New to the DooTalk forum but looks like lots of info here from knowlegable folks. Anyhow, I have 2002 MXZ 700, runs awsome after getting it started, but heres the problem, GETTING IT STARTED. Off the trailer and cold I sit there and pull and pull the thing and no go, choke on, half and off.Empire087 · #2 · Mar 28, 2010. SnoMo said: We had two XP's start brake fires this January. Ski-Doo and my dealer claim the ebrakes were on - they were not. Ski-Doo will do nothing about it, they send only lawyer like letters stating they are not and never will be responsible. I have seen several other posts claiming the same issue.IcutMetl · #5 · Feb 16, 2017 (Edited by Moderator) summit670x said: Rmotion in position 1 is "UN" coupled as per BRP right here on Dootalk. With those block flipped up it is for sure uncoupled. This option gives the opportunity to run the blocks in position 2,3,or 4 on trail and when you jump off trail you can uncouple with the turn of your ...Recommended for you. Ski-Doo Snowmobiles Forum Since 2002. A forum community dedicated to Ski-doo snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about trails, racing, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! 7.6M. Join Community Grow Your Business. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.A forum community dedicated to Ski-doo snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about trails, racing, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! 7.6M. Join Community Grow Your Business.The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.MX-Z Man · #19 · Feb 27, 2023. DooXtreme said: I saw 105ish on the speedometer on 1200cc renegade 137 which dyno at 136 hp I believe. I haven't been able to get it over 100 on the speedo this year. Looked around 98 on the speedometer and when I opened my GPS app the app had my top speed of 89 mph.The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada Manage Consent.Feb 5, 2021 · A forum community dedicated to Ski-doo snowmobile owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about trails, racing, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Feb 14, 2022 · 5. Old Doo Daddy · #19 · Feb 14, 2022. MunsonAuto said: My first impressions are very mediocre at best. -The new headlight is long overdue, but styling could be better especially for the mountain sleds. -The gauge is whatever to me, I'm in the crowd that only really uses the rpm, coolant temp and trip. .

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